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  • Why can't King Quest satellite dishes get HD on DIRECTV?

    Actually, they can. It's just that there aren't any HD channels to get. Let me back up a little bit.

    The King Quest Automatic Satellite System
    gives you satellite TV almost anywhere. Just put it on a level surface with a clear view of the southern sky and it will do the rest. There's only one problem though... you'll only get standard definition channels. A lot of people will tell you that the dish can only see the 101 satellite, and that's not exactly true.

    DIRECTV uses two different sets of frequencies for satellite transmissions. One, the "Ku band," is the same set of frequencies used by satellite TV operators all over the world, including DISH. The other, the "Ka band," between 26.5 and 40GHz, is only used by DIRECTV in North America. No one else has any licenses for it. While this means virtually limitless capacity for HD and 4K channels, it also means that instead of off-the-shelf parts, a DIRECTV satellite dish needs special receiving equipment. On regular dishes something like the Slimline-5 SWM LNB is used which gives one dish the ability to receive Ku-band broadcasts from three locations and Ka-band broadcasts from two others. It even packages all that signal up into a nice tidy chunk of frequencies that can all fit on one wire.

    For mobile dishes, that big thing wouldn't fit and it wouldn't focus the signals the way it needs to. In order to receive DIRECTV HD broadcasts, which are on the Ka band, custom hardware is needed. Custom hardware is expensive, and at the moment none of the makers of mobile and marine antennas are spending that money. At the very least you would need a custom Ka-band tuner chip, and if you only had that you would lose SD channels (potentially not a big deal.) If you wanted it all, you'd need a custom-made setup like that SWM LNB but smaller and designed to work with a smaller dish. All that costs a lot of money and especially with a lower-priced unit like the King Quest, it would change the price a lot.

    When most (possibly all) standard definition signals leave DIRECTV in 2019, there's a possibility that the Ku-band satellites which currently feed over 800 SD channels would have up to 32 HD channels instead. If that happens, the current generation of mobile and marine dishes would pick up those channels. It's also possible that we'll see King, KVH, Intellian, Winegard, or another manufacturer put the money into a retrofit kit that would let you see the HD channels instead, even if it was only half of them at a time. (DIRECTV's HD channels are on two different satellite locations.)

    Or it's possible that's the end of your investment. I doubt that very much, but anything could happen.

    If you have a mobile or marine dish that only gets standard definition channels, call your friends at Solid Signal at 877.312.4547 to discuss your options. Right now no one knows what the future will bring, but if you want to be 100% future proof there are certainly options out there!

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    Comments 5 Comments
    1. HoTat2's Avatar
      HoTat2 -
      Thanks for the info. here Stuart ...

      Few technical points for the audience ...

      DIRECTV's downlink is actually in the "K"-band of 18.3-18.8 GHz (B-band) and 19.7-20.2 GHz (A-band). And only the uplink side is actually in the "Ka-band at 28.35-28.6 GHz; 29.25-29.5 GHz (B-band). 29.5-30.0 GHz (A-band).

      You can't receive the Ka band by itself since DIRECTV sends guide data, authorizations, firmware updates, etc. on the Ku band 101W.

      And DIRECTV should at least have 32 Ku "transponders" available at 101W for moving frequently watched HD channels if they choose that approach. Not room for only up to "32 HD channels."
    1. Stuart Sweet's Avatar
      Stuart Sweet -
      Agree with all of that except the last part - I've been told the 101W satellite has some limitations as to how many HD channels it can carry since it wasn't designed for it. I don't know the deep technical bits, but I do trust the source.
    1. HoTat2's Avatar
      HoTat2 -
      But if we use DIRECTV's current configuration of broadcasting four Spanish HD channels on 119W tp. 24 using MPEG-4 and 8-PSK modulation as a base. At the very least 32 CONUS Ku transponders at 101W should give a capacity of 32 x 4, or 128 HD channels.
    1. Stuart Sweet's Avatar
      Stuart Sweet -
      Just saying what I'm told old friend
    1. HoTat2's Avatar
      HoTat2 -
      No problem ...

      I just can't believe DIRECTV would only allocate one HD channel per Ku transponder, even at their smaller 24 MHz bandwidth.

      Granted, they'll certainly not try to go as crazy as Dish squeezing as many as 9 HD channels per Ku tp. But I would expect to see 4-5 per.

      Again, all of this "IF" this is what DIRECTV intends to do with Ku 101W after the 2019 SD shut-off.

      Boy, what I wouldn't give for an interview with Phil Goswitz on this issue ...