thank you for great service your the best in quality and shipping. Those recievers if you order from directv, amazon or even ebay and all those others you do not know the quality of the product or even what product your getting i have been scammed from amazon and ebay you cant even purchase an old used reciever cause directv wont authorize it and a lot of times the sellers will send horrible dirty products that havent been used in years and may have a previous bill on the access cards and directv sends junk so called refurbished receivers what ever they have in stock so thank you for selling new good and quality directv recievers.