UPDATED FOR ’18/’19: Do you need a Slimline-5 Dish or Slimline-3 Dish?

DIRECTV holds leases for several satellite locations.There is so much programming available that doing with one satellite, or even a cluster of satellites in one location, wouldn’t work. So, DIRECTV uses a fleet of satellites in five locations for US English programming, plus several others for global, non-English programming. Each satellite location is identified by its position in the sky. All communications satellites sit in orbit approximately 22,500 miles above earth. This is due to the mathematics of orbiting objects.

Orbiting is really just falling. Gravity always pulls things down, but something that already moves in a direction of its own will not fall straight down. instead, its path of movement will bend toward whatever is pulling it down. In order to avoid falling down completely, an object must move more quickly as it gets closer to the source of gravity. In this way it will keep moving away at the same time it is falling, thereby staying at the same distance. It’s easy to see this work in a draining tub or toilet; things spin faster as they move closer to the center.

It was Arthur C. Clarke, the great science fiction writer, who first posed this question: If everything in a stable orbit moves at a speed defined by its distance from the earth, where is the point where a satellite will orbit the earth in exactly one day? If you could do this, then you could put a radio transmitter in a permanent orbit over one spot on earth, and a radio antenna wouldn’t have to move to find its signal.

Mr. Clarke found his answer and we’re glad he did, since it’s what makes all satellite communications possible. So, since DIRECTV (and everyone else) can put a satellite exactly where they want, we can use dishes to get signals from those satellites. We refer to the satellites by their position in longitude, rounded up to a whole number. DIRECTV operates satellites at the 99, 101, 103, and 119 degree locations for its US English programming.

That’s a lot of sky to cover with one antenna.

101 degrees west longitude is a little bit west of Dallas, while 119 degrees is over California. You need not only a wide dish but a lot of clear sky for one antenna to see all five locations. DIRECTV knows this and while their Slimline-5 series dish does the trick nicely, they have concentrated on moving as much programming as possible to satellites in the 99, 101, and 103 locations so that dishes are easier to aim. The Slimline-3 dish reads only these three locations and is recommended for most markets. If you’re in a market where your local channels are on satellites in the 99, 101, or 103 locations only, you can save money with a Slimline-3 dish and save time aiming.

Big changes ahead

DIRECTV announced the retirement of its satellite at the 119 location several years ago. They have been actively moving customers to HD and will be retiring most (if not all) standard definition programming. When the 119 satellite is moved into its parking orbit, there will be no reason for US residential customers to use any dish that picks up 119. In fact, I recommend all customers use the Reverse Band Slimline-3 dish at this point unless they have a specific need for a different dish.

Here are the HD channels that need the Slimline-5 dish

Since standard definition channels are going away, there really isn’t a need to list them. According to FCC filings, these are the only national HD channels that require a Slimline-5 dish:

  • BeIN Sports Español
  • ESPN Deportes
  • UniMas West

In addition, these Music Choice channels are currently on 119:

  • Music Choice Brazilian Pop
  • Music Choice Classical Masterpieces
  • Music Choice Easy Listening
  • Music Choice Irish Favorites
  • Music Choice Italian Favorites
  • Music Choice Jazz Vocal Standards
  • Music Choice Jazz
  • Music Choice K-Pop
  • Music Choice Lounge
  • Music Choice Mexicana
  • Music Choice Nature Sounds
  • Music Choice Party Favorites
  • Music Choice Romances
  • Music Choice Sounds of the Seasons
  • Music Choice Singers & Swing
  • Music Choice Taste of Italy

Local Channels aren’t a problem

There are still a number of channels that broadcast their SD signals on the 119 satellite, but there are no local HD channels on the 119 satellite. If you give up the 119 satellite you are only giving up standard definition duplicates of the channels you can get on another satellite. Still, if you have an older receiver and need an SD signal, customers in these markets should use a Slimline-5 until those channels are turned off.

  • Albany, NY
  • Albuquerque, NM
  • Bakersfield, CA
  • Baton Rouge, LA
  • Buffalo, NY
  • Charleston WV
  • Chico, CA
  • Corpus Christi, TX
  • Dayton, OH
  • Des Moines, IA
  • Duluth, MN
  • El Paso, TX
  • Eugene, OR
  • Fargo, ND
  • Flint, MI
  • Fort Myers, FL
  • Fresno, CA
  • Grand Rapids, MI
  • Green Bay, WI
  • Greensboro, NC
  • Harlingen, TX
  • Hartford, CT
  • Houston, TX
  • Indianapolis, IN
  • Jackson, MS
  • Jacksonville, FL
  • Knoxville, TN
  • Lafayette, LA
  • Lansing, MI
  • Laredo, TX
  • Las Vegas, NV
  • Lexington, KY
  • Lima, OH
  • Little Rock, AR
  • Louisville, KY
  • Madison, WI
  • Medford, OR
  • Mobile, AL
  • Monterey, CA
  • New Orleans, LA
  • Norfolk, VA
  • Oklahoma City, OK
  • Omaha, NE
  • Paducah, KY
  • Pensacola, FL
  • Portland, ME
  • Providence, RI
  • Raleigh-Durham NC
  • Reno, NV
  • Richmond, VA
  • Roanoke-Lynchburg, VA
  • Rochester, NY
  • Santa Barbara, CA
  • Savannah, GA
  • Shreveport, LA
  • South Bend, IN
  • Spokane, WA
  • Springfield, MA
  • Tallahassee, FL
  • Topeka, KS
  • Tucson, AZ
  • Tulsa, OK
  • Tyler, TX
  • Wichita, KS
  • Wilkes Barre, PA
  • Wilmington, NC
  • Yakima, WA

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Stuart Sweet
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